An audacious goal has been set with a non league club owner hoping to be in the Premier League by 2038, announced in an interview this week.
Spencer Gore, majority owner of Chelmsford City, has a lifelong football fan with roots in Chelmsford, and sees untapped potential in the city with a population of 180,000, which has never had a Football League team due to past financial issues, ground-sharing, and mismanagement.
To achieve his ambitious goal, he has professionalized the club by making it full time, increasing the budget, and signing high calibre players, such as Colchester United’s former top scorer Lyle Taylor.
He emphasised marginal gains like fitness and team spirit, while also running the club like a business, drawing on his experience with fast-growing companies.
He engages the community through fan forums, new kits (one featuring season ticket holders’ names), and a foundation providing meals and football camps for kids.
Despite competition from nearby Premier League clubs like West Ham and Tottenham, and such Essex clubs as Colchester and Southend further down, and challenges with player agents, Gore remains driven by ambition and a belief that greater earnings enable more community impact.
🗣️ “If you’re going to have a dream, let’s have a big dream and really go for it.”
🚀 Chelmsford City owner Spencer Gore reveals his ‘Big Hairy Audacious Goal’: take the Clarets to the Premier League by 2038.#NationalLeagueSouthhttps://t.co/prdC9lPKt2
— The Non-League Paper (@NonLeaguePaper) September 5, 2025
Interviewer: I’m delighted to say that joining me on the broadcast this week is Spencer Gore. Now, Spencer is the majority owner of Chelmsford City Football Club, and it’s a real pleasure to get you on the broadcast. Spencer, how are you?
Spencer: I’m very well, thanks. Very well indeed. Thanks for having me on.
Interviewer: It’s a pleasure and my privilege to get you on. We did say off camera that you weren’t particularly religious, but I do think football is a way of life, isn’t it? Is a bit of a leap of faith, certainly in in your case. And I suppose we all want our clubs to be led to the promised land, you know. Have you been a footy fan all your life, Spencer?
Spencer: I have. Yeah, so I grew up near Chelmsford. So Chelmsford is my local team, but my mum’s side of the family is all from Liverpool. So I used to go up there every every holidays as a young kid and you could hear you could hear the the the crowd at Goodison or or Anfield from where my my mum lived and my granddad lived. And I’ve just always been hooked on it and I was lucky that most of my mum’s side of the family were Liverpool fans rather than Everton. But the first the very first you know professional game I went to was actually Everton v Millwall with my dad. We just we arrived up at Anfield and where my granddad lived and we walked up to Goodison and we got there at half time and and we said to a policeman, “Look, we’ve driven up specifically for the game which we we hadn’t but you know any chance we can get in and he he literally opened a gate and let us in to two and then gave us two seats.” So that was my my introduction to professional football.
Interviewer: Now times have changed. My first game was Burnley versus Celtic in the Anglo Scottish Cup. I don’t know if you remember that tournament. It was in the 70s. The Celtic came down. There was a pitch invasion and there was about 300 Glaswegians got arrested and my dad said, “We’re never coming again.”
Spencer: It’s funny how you remember things like that, isn’t it? I remember going the first game I ever went to on my own was the was the Merseyside derby at Goodison. So my mu’s cousin had two season tickets and could couldn’t go. So I took one of them and I was there. I was about 13 and I had my Liverpool top on under my jumper cuz I was in the Everton end. And I remember coming out and I knew my way back to my granddad. I sort of turned right out the stand, cut through Stanley Park and it was down the road. And as I was coming out, 20,000 people were going left and I was like, “Well, I’ll just have to go with the flow. I don’t know where I’m going, but I’ll go with the flow.” And then this massive fight kicked off and I remember the police horses coming in and the helicopter overhead and I was just thinking Christ, I don’t think I’ll come to a game on my own again in future.
Interviewer: I was just looking at Chelmsford, it’s not a place that I know very well, but I was looking at the population and it’s very similar to a place like Burnley around around about 100,000 population. Why why do you think Chelmsford has not been kind of in the heights of the football league before? What’s been the the stumbling blocks for a club like Chelmsford?
Spencer: So when I first got involved, as more than a fan back in, I think it was 2007 I was setting up my first business and, I had a free month non-compete. So, I just came down to the club and said, “Look, I’m a local. I love football. I’m setting up a business. I’ve got some spare time.” And I started doing some research and Chelmsford has now got about 180,000 people. It’s a very fast growing city. It’s just become a city, not a few years back. I started look looking at football clubs in the country and I ranked them on population size because I was looking at what the potential was in terms of football and chances on population should be a Championship side and as you said we’ve never been in the Football League. So it’s a little bit of a mystery.There’s a few if you go back in history there’s a few times we’ve when it was you had to be elected into the Football League there was a few times we should have where we finished top and and should have gone up and we weren’t a popular team because we we used to spend quite a bit of money and sign Football League players. So I think that that we weren’t elected because we were too much competition. And then over the last 20 30 years it’s a combination of you know with the club the club went bust back in the late ’90s lost the ground. We ground shared for quite a while over at Maldon and then at Billericay since we’ve been back in Chelmsford since I think it’s 2005 we’ve had a council ground council own ground which has got a running track around it. So, I think it’s just been badly managed in some circumstances, unlucky in other circumstances. So I think it’s got huge potential. You know, you look at a Burnley and think, well, Christ, you know, if if teams like that can get to the top division, there’s no reason why Chelmsford can’t in terms of the, we’ve got enough fan base to support that and it’s a fairly affluent area. It’s you know it’s not a massively deprived area. So there’s no reason I don’t think why it can’t be a top flight team and and that’s what we’re working towards.
Interviewer: For what you’re saying about Chelmsford, yeah, 180,000. Gosh, that should that should definitely be potential there. What what kind of what kind of clubs are people supporting now Spencer? One of the things about Burnley that I’m really proud of is that we all wear Burnley shirts. You know, there are no Man United shirts in Burnley, or Liverpool shirts or tops. It’s Burnley. What’s the kind of What’s the challenge you’re up against there?
Spencer: Well, Essex in general is a bit of a funny footballing county. The big two clubs by a mile traditionally are Colchester and Southend. They’ve both been Championship clubs. They’re both down on their luck for one of a better phrase at the moment. Colchester, League Two, Southend in the National League, but but both have huge potential like like Chelmsford. Both both of those are big cities. So you don’t tend to see a lot of their their shirts around Chelmsford, the odd one or two. It’s really the Premier League that is the competition for us in terms of maybe a little bit of Ipswich these days, but it’s mainly the West Hams and the Tottenhams that are the big two and then some of the other London clubs. But yeah, West Ham is half an hour, even if that 20 minutes on a train from Chelmsford. So that’s taken up since it moved, that’s taken up a lot of our sort of fan base. But I think it’s crying out for a big club. It really is. We actually launched a new kit this year or two two new kits this year. And it’s lovely seeing them being worn around the town cuz they’ve sold cuz the the the previous owners hadn’t launched a new kit for about three or four years, I don’t think. And it’s nice to see them all around town. And one of the things we’re actually doing to try and get that community aspect is back in 2002, I think it was, I went to watch Liverpool versus Alaves in Dortmund in the UEFA Cup final. And I heard that Alves had all of their season ticket holders names embroidered onto the shirt for the final. And I’ve always thought that was a great thing to do. So this year we’re launching a third team kit with all of our season ticket holders names embroidered onto it. So it’s things like that. So it’d be nice seeing those shirts worn around town where the season ticket holders can actually see their own name and they know that they’re you know on the back of the players sort of thing.
Interviewer: Yeah. I think I wonder what you think about you know I mean in in Lancashire Spencer we’ve had the recent stories with Morecambe a club that that you know where look hopefully it looks like a deal finally might be struck for that club but and more recent times we had Bury who folded, how much kind of pressure do you feel as as the custodian of Chelmsford you know I mean it’s your money, it’s your decisions, you know does that weigh quite heavy or does your business expertise kind of kind of make that more manageable?
Spencer: A little bit of both. I’m hoping my business expertise you know I’ve my other businesses have been in the the times 100 fastest growing businesses the the FT thousand fastest growing businesses in Europe. So my thought process is that I take some of that and bring it to the football club and try and professionalize things and that will you know will have a great impact on the football club. The reality is you never know what’s going to happen around the corner and and yeah there’s a huge amount of pressure on me that I’ve talked it up a lot that what I want to do with a club because I’m very much you know if we set a goal and tell everyone about it we’re much more likely to achieve it. So, I’ve really been trying to get the momentum going in the city for the last year and making these bold statements, but now you got to deliver on them. And someone asked me, so I introduced a fans forum when I took over because the the fans had said there wasn’t enough engagement. So, I said, “Well, I can talk to you for free that why wouldn’t I be doing that?” So, we launched a fans forum every month. And the first question I got asked was, you know, we’ve had previous owners come in and promise everything and, you know, not deliver. How how are you going to make us trust you today? And I said, well, I can’t make you trust me today. That’s impossible. It’s not how trust works. Trust is built up over time. I said, the way that will work is I’ll tell you I’m going to do something, and if I do it, you’ll trust me a little bit more. And if I don’t do it, you’ll trust me a little bit less. And hopefully I’ll do enough of those things over the season that I get right that you’ll trust me more and more. And then that’s how we do it. And so I’ve been trying to make these little statements, little promises, and we’ve delivered on nearly all of them. And I’ve said, you know, we’ll get some things wrong, but they’ll be for the right reasons. We’ve tried something and it hasn’t worked, and we’ll correct it when we can, but I want to make sure I keep getting things right more often than not because there is a huge amount of expectation on the club now. For a city of this size not to have been in the Football League, never mind the Premier League is phenomenal. So, you know, I’m sort of saying I’m going to be the one to do that for us. And I’m certainly going to give it my best shot whether I do it or not, who knows? But yeah, that, not many things keep me awake at night, but that’s one thing that has started keeping me awake at night is is the pressure of delivering that.
Interviewer: And what what’s been the significant change that you brought to the club, Spencer? Is it this element of professionalism, you know, just kind of standards? Just say a bit about that from a from a leadership role.
Spencer Yeah, I think professionalism definitely we’re trying to run it as a proper business. The amount of people that tell you football’s not like any other business. And I mean, I’m only a year in so I maybe prove wrong. I think it is like most other businesses, the biggest difference is when you make a decision, you’ve got a few thousand people will tell you if they agree or not rather than in my other businesses. I haven’t got that to the same degree, but you know the the amount of people that have said to me, “Oh, that’s not how we do it in this league.” And I’m like, “But that’s potentially why we are still in this league because we’ve always done it that way. We do it the same as everyone else.” So, we’re trying to look at things same with my my other business, European Medical Journal. We’re trying to look at doing things differently because we haven’t got the budget to compete with all of the big boys. So, we’ve got to do things differently. So, it’s trying some different things. In terms of the professionalism, we’ve we’ve taken the club full-time for the first time in its history. And, you know, last Saturday, our first league game, you could just tell in the last 20 minutes that we were a much fitter team than than the team we were playing who put in a great performance, don’t get me wrong, but they trained Tuesdays and Thursday evenings. We train four four days a week plus two matches. So the fitness levels were really different towards the end of the game. So it’s just things like that. It’s what can we do to give us the best chance of professionalism and and there’s certain things you can do that cost you a lot of money and there’s certain things you can do that don’t really cost you anything. Getting players really fit doesn’t cost you anything. OK, you’ve got to once you’re paying their salaries to be full-time, there’s no real additional cost there. So it’s why aren’t we the fittest team in the league? we need to be the fittest team in the league. We need to have the best team spirit that’s free. It doesn’t cost us anything. So, it’s looking at these things and say, well, what can we do to increase all of these things? And it’s those marginal gains that get talked about. It’s the 1 percenters.
Interviewer: It’s really interesting. In another world I was a middle manager for Argos and we always they always brought the the big guns, the athletes and you know talked about these margins and Adrian Moorhouse you might remember the swimmer won his gold medal from lane seven and he lost it previously by by micro seconds and it was that difference that he had to made up which actually gave him the gold medal and another chap I remember was Clive Woodward. Who was in charge of the England World Cup running team and he came to talk to us at Argos. He said it all all begins with the socks, you know, we were all like what what’s he where’s he going with this, you know, and it was about the standards, you know, some of the players were coming in in their own kit or they weren’t quite looking the part and and that’s where he said he started the journey to them winning the World Cup. It’s like starts with your socks guys, you know. Small margins, isn’t it?
Spencer: 100%. We did some work with, I got Sir Clive in to do we do a summer ball every year and we got Sir Clive to be one of our speakers and we ended up working with him. He coached us for for a good few months afterwards and and you know he came up with the phrase critical non-essentials which later became through Sir Dave Brailsford marginal gains but it’s taking something breaking it down into 100 pieces and improving each one of those pieces by 1% and you get 100% improvement. So it seems a lot easier to try and improve lots of things by 1% than the whole thing by 100%. And it’s he talks about Lombardi time. You know, turn up 10 minutes early for everything. It’s just disrespectful. So if you’re not 10 minutes early, you’re you’re you’re effectively late if you’re on time. And if you’re on late, you’re really late and you’re in trouble. And we use a lot of his stuff. You know, the we talk about wanting to have sponges rather than rocks. So rocks is someone that thinks they know everything already. They don’t want to learn. a sponge just soaks up that knowledge and wants to constantly be improving. And it’s all those little bits you they’re not going to win you a league or a cup on their own, but you add them you add enough of them together and it might just be enough as you say like Moorehouse over the course of the season or a race to to to make the difference.
Interviewer: And just talking of those small marginal gains, Spencer, like I said, I like non-league and I was we have a small club in the town of Burnley called Padiham and I went to a preseason friendly and I heard a couple of players talking about one of the guys had left Padiham and gone on to passengers new and the conversation was basically along the lines he’d gone because he got an extra £10 a week, you know, and this is further down the pyramid of course, but how difficult is it for you to convince people to come and play in the National League South, might be Football League. Is it purely about dosh? How how do you sell the project beyond that?
Spencer: No, I think I think money obviously comes into it. You know, everyone’s got to pay bills at the end of the day. So, money is a factor. But we’ve got, you know, we’ve got a much bigger budget than we had last year. We’ve deliberately increased that because we were going full-time, but we we’re definitely not in the I wouldn’t have thought we were even in the top five or six in the league. So you can’t just rely on money. And we’ve signed a few players that have come from National League down dropped down a level and we’ve signed one player that was at the top scorer for Colchester United in League Two last year. And that doesn’t just come down to money because, you know, we’re we’ve not got as big a budgets as them. It comes down to a whole host of things, you know, where where are they in the league? Are they going to be pushing for promotion or are they going to be in a relegation battle? You know, where do they think we’re going to be, hopefully in a promotion battle? What are the long-term aspirations for us for the club and where do we want to go? What are the facilities like here? Although it’s a council owned facility, so we we have limited control on what we do. And a lot of the fans moan about the fact that it’s got a running track around it. It it’s actually one of the best facilities in our league if you take that away in that we’ve got a great clubhouse. We’ve got a 3G on site. We’ve got a really good gym on site. So you know, the players don’t have to leave the setup once they’re in here to train and and to do those sorts of things. So, I think it’s a combination. You know, we have a a head of recruitment, Adam Drew, that does a lot of our recruitment with Angelo, the manager, with a couple of the signings. I was asked to get involved to really so, we Jack Barham that that came down from Aldershot, he just scored the winner and got man of the match in the FA Trophy in his last game for them. And I was asked to to get on the phone to sell him the dream. And I love doing that because I’m so passionate about what we’re trying to achieve with Lyle that’s come from Colchester. He was known by one of our directors who Caroline Barker who works on Sky Sports. She’d done some work with him. So there was a connection there. And we’re just we’re got a really good team around the place now. Whether it’s the the coaching staff or or the directors, we’re really relentless in trying to achieve what we want to achieve. And so we, you know, he sort of laughed and made a comment to the media not long ago that it just felt like a sort of a combined prolonged attack by me and Caroline to get him down here that he said, you know, she’d send him a message 10 minutes later. I was sending him a message and yeah, I think we just wore him down in the end and got him to sign. But so yeah, money does come into it. Of course it does. But we’re definitely signing players that that it’s not just about the money that they’ve been they’ve had higher offers elsewhere and there’s players that we did make the highest offer to. So, it’s a combination of different things.
Interviewer: Are you still and you I guess you’re using they’re using agents as well even at national league levels. So, you’re dealing with that. Has that been interesting for you?
Spencer: Yeah, I think I think every single player probably that we we signed this year had an agent and we signed a lot of players this year. It looks like we’re sort of someone said to me on talkSPORT, you know, are you the money bags? We’re not really. It’s just that we’ve had to sign 18 players because we went full-time. We lost our whole squad that that were all part-time with other jobs. So with the exception of Archie Tamplin who re-signed and Harry Barbrook who was on loan with us last year from Ipswich which it’s a whole new squad this year. So every single one of those I think has had an agent certainly the ones I’ve been involved with and yeah it does change the dynamic. I’m a very much an open and transparent guy. I just say it how it is. So, I talk to a player and say, “Look, this is what we can offer you” and they agree to it and then the agent comes in and changes things around and obviously doing their job to get the best deal for the player. That’s what they’re there for. but it does make it does drag things out and you generally end up where you were anyway, just slightly tweaked and you’ve wasted a couple of weeks, a quite a few hours and and got to the same place anyway. But we’ve been fortunate that the agents I’ve dealt with and probably because they were representing some of the bigger players, they’re very professional. And they do do a good job. So yeah, I’ve dealt with a couple that you just think you’re just wasting people’s time here. You’re not adding anything to this at all. Yeah. but the majority of them seem to be, you know, their job is to look after the players’s best interest and that’s what they do.
Interviewer: And what about the dynamic of managing your own expectations of the club, Spencer? Managing the expectations of the supporters, which they all I know they all want you to be in the Football League tomorrow. And also managing I suppose the concern for me is the manage the expectation of the manager. You know, you there you are club gone full time. He’s got a whole new squad that he’s probably had an influence in building. How do you manage all that? You know that you don’t expect too much from Angelo too soon, but whilst wanting him to deliver what you want.
Spencer: Yeah. I think probably I’m the worst one for managing my own expectations. I have higher expectations than any of the fans or the management. I’m so ambitious and I’m so driven, but I’m also I get really frustrated that we haven’t got it all yesterday. I sometimes need to remind myself to enjoy the journey and not just look at the destination. Because best will in the world, no matter how successful we were, we can’t get to the Premier League for at least 5 years. So, it’s going to the minimum is 5 years. So, let’s enjoy those five years. And if we get there, great. If we don’t, it takes longer. So be it. But there’s no point just wishing away five years. So I think, you know, from that point of view, no one else really has higher expectations on me than myself. some of the fans, you know, it’s hard because you want you want to give them that hope, we were talking about this the other day. It’s the hope that kills you, isn’t it? You know, you start every season thinking there’s a chance and then you you go and lose a couple of games and that hope, you know, you’re just like, “Oh god, not another season like this.” So, it’s getting that balance between trying to be overly positive about everything, which I am, but also just making them realise that, yeah, we’re not going to win every single game this year. So, don’t get too down when we lose. Don’t get too high when we win. Let’s just say we want to get promoted this year. Realistically, playoffs is probably going to be the way we do it because we haven’t got the biggest budgets. So, let’s be realistic about that. We’re doing everything we can within our means to get us promoted. Ange’s expectations are to get promoted. He’s, you know, incredibly driven as well and he’ll push me on everything he can to try and get more cuz he wants to give the the team the best opportunity to get promoted and where we can we’ll give it and where we can’t we’ll just have that open and honest conversation and say, “Look, we haven’t got that in the budget for this year.” You know, we’re hoping to have it next year or we’re hoping to have it later in the season or, you know, it’s going to be a few years, but we’re working on being Football League ready. So the off the pitch we’re trying to get as close to being a Football League team as we can be so that when it happens on the pitch there’s no big changes that need to be made made. We’re looking at new grounds and I openly talk about that because again why wouldn’t I? But just because we’re talking about it doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. You know we’ve got options where there’s some land available and the council seem open to discussions but it’s still got to get through planning. We’ve still got to buy the land. So, it certainly doesn’t mean it’s happening, but I just think the more you can keep the fans in the loop, the more they’re going to get excited by this project, cuz we want exciting things to happen, but we just need to remember that if something doesn’t happen at the club, it’s it’s probably for a good reason that we haven’t got the resources or there’s a reason why it can’t happen at the moment. So, I think it’s trying to change a mindset. you know, the club, someone called the club in the close season the most boring club in the country cuz we we’ve not been promoted or relegated for 17 years. And it’s just trying to give them a little bit of hope that okay, we might not get promoted this year and we might not get relegated this year, but we might get promoted and we’re doing everything we can now. So in the past it’s felt like the club hasn’t necessarily always wanted to push on because there it does come with you know a lot of extra financial responsibility. And it in the past a lot of the players were part-time and it meant they potentially were going to not be able to play for the club if it went full-time which it has to do pretty much in the league above. But it feels now that everything we’re doing is geared about getting promotion. So if we don’t do something, it’s not because we don’t want to get promoted, it’s because it just can’t be done at the moment.
Interviewer: Yeah. I mean, it’s such a non-league has become so competitive, hasn’t it? I mean, it’s non-league, but it’s not non it’s not semi-professional, you know? I’m not sure how many full-time teams there are in your league, Spencer, but I’m guessing there’s quite a few now because they were all chasing the dream, aren’t they?
Spencer: Exactly that. It used to be that you know if you were if you were a full-time team in the National League, you had an advantage. But now I think probably pretty much every team in the National League is full time. If not, there might be one or two that aren’t. And then it became all if you’re full time in the National League South, you’ve got an advantage. And and last year, I think there was four, maybe five that were full time and maybe one or two that were hybrid. There’s 10 full time teams in this league. So you don’t get a huge advantage, you know, by being full time. half the half the time you’re playing, you’re playing against another team that’s full time as well. And as I said, we’ve got some teams that have dropped down this year that have got huge budgets, so we’re led to believe. You never know for sure, but that’s what people are saying. so it’s not just that you can go and buy the league. You can’t just get it by being full time. So you’ve got to just look at all these bits like we said and make those small improvements all over, not just one or two areas.
Interviewer: Yeah. And in managing those expectations, Spencer, is there a Mrs Gore that’s going, “Stop spending, stop spending, Spencer.” You know, this is our money you’re throwing down the.
Spencer: She’s given up on that. I’ve always had this mindset. I don’t know where it comes from, but I’ve always had this mindset that the more I spend, the more that drives me to make more money. And actually, I was talking to someone last night about this and saying, we were talking about the community side of the football club. And you get you there’s a certain mindset that sort of thinks it’s a bad thing to talk about money and how much you want to earn and how much you want to make. And I’m the opposite of that. I think the more money I can earn, the more good I can do. Cuz if I give 10% of my wealth for for argument’s sake or 20% or whatever that number is to charity or to football or to whatever, the more I can make, the more good I can do. So, we’ve got a foundation that that helps kids that wouldn’t normally get, they wouldn’t normally get a meal necessary every day because they get free school dinners and in the summer holidays and holidays in general, they they don’t get those free school dinners. So we put on camps for those kids to come and play football and then get free food. And you know, if we’re not making money or raising money, we can’t do that. And the more money we can raise and make, the more kids we can help. And you know, that’s it’s not just kids we help. It’s just an example. So that’s always driven me. The more I can spend, the more I need to go and make, and that drives me to work hard and and and grow my businesses. So yeah, yeah, she she does question how much I put in sometimes. But it’s again it’s it’s brought brought our family probably closer together. I was a bit worried. That was probably my biggest concern that it might I might just spend too much time down here because I am an all or nothing person, but actually on a Saturday now all five of us come down and spend pretty much the whole day together when when we’re all together and stuff like that. So it’s been nice from that side.
Interviewer: It’s great to hear. I mean, I think from a Christian minister’s perspective, sometimes people think that that somebody like me just thinks that all that wealth is is bad, but but what you’ve said is exactly what I believe. You know, I think ironically, last week the church reading was about the parable of the rich fool. It’s not it’s not about how much money you can acquire. It’s what you do with your money. I think that’s really important. you know, and in and in Burnley the you know, the football is one thing, but you know, obviously we’ve got the Premier League assets now, but the the community engagement is is absolutely incredible, you know, and you don’t need me to tell you, but that’s the way that you build up your football club is get the three and four year olds wearing Chelmsford kits and and then they want to play for the first team. And that’s that’s the model in Burnley and that’s why so many people follow it and and support it. So all power to your elbow I would say Spencer.
Spencer: Yeah. No, 100% agree with that. And and and I think that’s been lacking a little bit in the club. The club has felt like a team in the past. You know, we’ve had the women’s team over there, the men’s team over there, the the youth team over there, the walking team there, the disability team there, and it’s not been connected at all. It’s just been the only connection is the fact that we’ve got, you know, the Chelmsford City badge there and actually the women’s team and the youth team are were until this season affiliated separately and we’ve now got the women’s team to come under our umbrella and we’re working on the youth team still and yeah you got the foundation and it feels like we’re starting to get a much more joined up community feel to the club and and that is the only way we we can grow this. Again on the logo it says there I don’t know if you can see it ‘many minds, one heart’. Yeah, we need we need everyone pulling in the same direction to be the heartbeat of the club.
