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After calling for criminal sanctions against Elon Musk, Ed Davey also insisted the Lib Dems are a party of free speech.
Asked whether his party share the values of those who joined the Unite The Kingdom march, Davey said he thought far right rally organiser Tommy Robinson’s core group of supporters were “abhorrent”.
But speaking about the wider crowd, he said:
They’re protesting about the problems in the local NHS. They’re protesting about the costs of living and maybe free speech as well. But guess what? We’re a party of free speech, where a party wants to tackle the cost-of-living problems.
Aerial footage shows scale of ‘unite the kingdom’ rally – videoShare
Updated at 11.04 CEST
Ed Davey brands Elon Musk a ‘criminal’ and called for him to be prosecuted
In some other news, Ed Davey, the Lib Dems leader, has branded Elon Musk a criminal over remarks he made at the “Unite the Kingdom” rally in London last week.
Addressing the crowds last Saturday via video link, Musk, the owner of X, said: “I think there’s something beautiful about being British and what I see happening here is a destruction of Britain, initially a slow erosion but rapidly increasing erosion of Britain with massive uncontrolled migration.
“This is a message to the reasonable centre, the people who ordinarily wouldn’t get involved in politics, who just want to live their lives.
“They don’t want that, they’re quiet, they just go about their business.
“My message is to them: if this continues, that violence is going to come to you, you will have no choice. You’re in a fundamental situation here.
“Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die, that’s the truth, I think.”
Elon Musk on screen at the ‘Unite the Kingdom’ demonstration in central London last Saturday. Photograph: YouTube
Asked by Sky News’ Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips programme if he thought the billionaire was a criminal, Davey replied:
Yes. Not just because of the awful things he’s done, inciting violence. For example, he says a civil war in our country is inevitable, that our democratically elected government should be overthrown. They were bad enough.
But on his platform, there are examples of adverts pushing people on self-harm, on grooming, even selling videos showing paedophile acts, child sex abuse acts. And I think he should be held to account for them. Him personally and his business.
Ofcom now have the powers under the Online Safety Act… I know that is a new act and maybe we need to give them a bit more time but I personally think they need the encouragement and the support to take on powerful people and we shouldn’t just let powerful people get away with it.
Ed Davey has clashed with Elon Musk over his criticism of the tech billionaire’s appearance at last weekend’s United the Kingdom rally in London. Photograph: Stefan Rousseau/PAShare
Updated at 11.13 CEST
John Swinney calls on UK government to impose more sanctions on Israel
Scotland’s first minister John Swinney has welcomed the UK recognition of a Palestinian state as a “historic moment” but said it must not be conditional and must be backed by sanctions on Israel.
His comments come after a UN commission last week said it had reasonable grounds to conclude Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza, a charge Israel denies despite the overwhelming evidence supporting it (you can read more about the commission’s findings here).
The UN independent international commission of inquiry (COI) cited the killing of civilians and children in a “scorched-earth military strategy”, starvation and deaths caused by restrictions on food and medicines, mistreatment of detainees, forced displacement and the physical devastation of much of the territory to support its conclusion.
In comments carried by the PA news agency, Swinney said:
The recognition of a Palestinian state is a historic moment which should have come long ago.
I welcome this long-awaited recognition but stress that it must not be conditional and it must be backed by sanctions against Israel.
In addition to the recognition of the State of Palestine, Israel must agree to a ceasefire and allow humanitarian aid to flow freely to address the starvation being faced in Gaza.
A two-state solution is the only way that the Palestinians and Israelis can live side by side in peace, prosperity and security.
I am proud to be attending an event to mark the recognition of the State of Palestine and will continue to do all that I can to support those suffering in Gaza and the West Bank.
John Swinney has said there was plausible evidence that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/PAShare
Updated at 10.53 CEST
Lammy says it is time to ‘stand up’ for the two-state solution
David Lammy has also been on the BBC, speaking to Laura Kuenssberg on her Sunday morning programme.
Lammy is asked about what he would say to the families of Israeli hostages who say recognising Palestinian statehood is ill-judged and seriously complicates efforts to bring their loved ones home.
The deputy prime minister, who has repeatedly called for the hostages being held by Hamas to be released, said he continues to meet with hostage families.
He added:
Hamas is not the Palestinian people. A Palestinian state is a just cause, and our country, 108 years ago, signed up to the Balfour Declaration, we believe in a homeland for the Jewish people, but we also stated that we believed in the civil and religious rights of the Palestinian people, and now is the time to stand up for that two states.
Otherwise you are effectively saying you believe in no state for the Palestinian people or one state in which you would have to explain how there is proper equality before the law for the Palestinian people.
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Trevor Phillips pressed David Lammy over whether or not there will be any conditions for Hamas, the Palestinian militant group Israel says are being rewarded by the British government’s plan to recognise Palestinian statehood.
Lammy said:
We have been crystal clear. Hamas is a terrorist organisation. There can be no role for Hamas, actually, as a consequence of the decision that we made back at the end of July, we saw the Palestinian Authority and the Arab League be crystal clear that there can be no role for Hamas the first time they had done that. So we’re absolutely clear they are terrorists, they should release the hostages. That is unequivocal.
But notwithstanding that Trevor, and this is an important point, when we talk about a Palestinian state, and any step to recognise it is because we wish to keep alive the prospects of a two state solution. That is what is in jeopardy. That’s not just about Gaza. It’s also about the West Bank, settler violence and expansion.
Hamas, a Palestinian militant group and political movement in the Gaza Strip, has been the sole ruler in the Gaza Strip since 2007 and is designated as a terrorist organisation by many countries, including the UK, the US and Israel. Israel has said Hamas cannot have any involvement in the postwar governance of Gaza, something the British government has also said.
The Palestinian Authority is an interim body that governs the occupied West Bank and recognises Israel. It is unpopular with many people living in the West Bank. Arab powers, the UK and European countries have previously signalled that they want the PA to take a central role in the administration of Gaza once Israel’s war ends, though they agree it needs reform.
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Updated at 10.32 CEST
The prospect of a ceasefire in Gaza ‘lays in tatters’, Lammy says, as he defends recognition move
The deputy prime minister, David Lammy, is speaking to Sky News’ Trevor Phillips this morning on behalf of the government.
Lammy, who will represent the UK at the general assembly, has said a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel “lays in tatters” after Israel carried out an airstrike on a Hamas negotiating team in Qatar at the start of the month, and the continued expansion of Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank, which are illegal under international law.
Qatar, a close US ally, has been hosting negotiations aimed at securing a ceasefire in the Gaza war, and plays a key role as an intermediary.
The former foreign secretary told Sky News:
Well, since that announcement in July, in fact, with the attack on Qatar, a ceasefire at this point lays in tatters, and the prospects are bleak.
And of course, we’ve also seen Israel move forward with an E1 development which would run a coach and horses between both the north and south West bank and ensure that we do not get to two states.
Lammy condemned Israel’s so-called E1 plan, a highly controversial and illegal project for more than 3,400 new homes which would effectively split the occupied West Bank in half.
As my colleague Peter Beaumont explains in this story, the plan would extend the existing Jewish settlement of Ma’ale Adumim towards Jerusalem, further cutting occupied east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and further separating the north and south of the territory.
Israel’s far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich – who backs both the plan and the imposition of Israeli sovereignty through the occupied West Bank – gloated that he believed construction on E1 would “bury the idea of a Palestinian state”.
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Updated at 10.45 CEST
What does recognition of Palestinian statehood entail practically?
The Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, has done a useful explainer with a section looking at what recognising Palestine would look like in practice. Here is an extract:
Recognition is largely symbolic. When the UK’s position was announced the then foreign secretary, David Lammy, said: “It will not change the position on the ground.”
But it allows the UK to enter treaties with Palestine and would mean that the Palestine head of mission becomes a fully recognised ambassador.
Some argue that a greater onus would be placed on the UK to boycott goods imported into the UK by Israel that come from the occupied territories.
But it is seen more as a statement on Palestine’s future, and disapproval of Israel’s refusal to negotiate a Palestinian state…
There are genuine fears that Israel is about to annex the West Bank or make Gaza so uninhabitable that Palestinians are forced over the borders into Jordan or Egypt, so destroying the possibility of a Palestinian homeland.
Recognition that Palestine is a state with the right to self-determination is an attempt to show Israel cannot simply annex land that the international court of justice has declared to be illegally occupied.
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Keir Starmer set to announce UK recognition of Palestinian state later today
Good morning and welcome to our live coverage of UK politics.
The British prime minister, Keir Starmer, is expected to announce the UK’s recognition of a Palestinian state in a statement on Sunday afternoon, despite fierce Israeli opposition and US pressure to reconsider.
Starmer said in July he would recognise Palestinian statehood before the UN general assembly in New York this month if Israel did not meet a series of conditions to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza, including agreeing to a ceasefire and committing to a long-term peace process leading to a Palestinian state coexisting alongside Israel.
But Israel’s continued restrictions on aid into the devastated territory, causing starvation in parts of the Strip, the IDF’s relentless bombardments, killing a high number of civilians and destroying much of Gaza’s infrastructure, and Israel’s expanded assault on famine-stricken Gaza City, which has forced hundreds of thousands of people to flee, has made the government feel like taking stronger action – no matter how symbolic – is necessary.
The UK government is also said to be alarmed at plans to accelerate Israeli settlements in the West Bank which ministers fear will end any hope of a two-state solution.
Keir Starmer is to make the announcement after concluding the humanitarian situation has deteriorated significantly in the past few weeks. Photograph: Toby Melville/PA
High-level meetings at the UN summit involving world leaders begin on 23 September. In a rare diplomatic break with Washington, Starmer has found himself at odds with the Trump administration over the move, which is opposed to giving official recognition to the state.
Portugal’s foreign ministry said on Friday that it would also formally declare its recognition for Palestinian statehood on Sunday.
Lisbon had already announced in July that it intended to do so, citing the “extremely worrying evolution of the conflict”. Similar moves have been made by Australia, Canada, Luxembourg and France. The Israeli government says that recognition rewards Hamas’ terrorism.
Labour has sought to stress that recognition of a Palestinian state is not a reward for Hamas, and emphasised that it would have no role in the future governance of Gaza.
It is expected the government will ratchet up sanctions on Hamas in due course, and it has stepped up demands for the release of hostages.
Family members of some of the hostages taken by Hamas during its attack on southern Israel in October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken hostage, urged Starmer to hold off from recognition until the 48 still in Gaza, of whom 20 are believed to still be alive, had been returned safely.
The letter said:
Your regrettable announcement of the UK’s intention to recognise a Palestinian state at the United Nations general assembly has dramatically complicated efforts to bring home our loved ones.
Hamas has already celebrated the UK’s decision as a victory and reneged on a ceasefire deal. We write to you with a simple plea – do not take this step until our loved ones are home and in our arms.
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